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PostSubject: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Wed May 23, 2012 9:31 pm

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WELL AFTER A LONG HEATED DEBATE ON FB IT SEEMS PEOPLE THINK OF USACI AS AN ORG THAT DOESNT HAVE ANY STRUCTURED RULES OR ANY TYPE OF JUDGES THAT CARE TO ENFORCE THE RULES. I AM WONDERING IS THIS WHY YOU GUYS PLAY HERE BECASUE YOU CAN BASICALLY DO WHAT YOU WNAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, ANDGET AWAY WITH IT JUST TO SKIP FINALS AND NEVER BE CORRECT ON BEING WRONG????


THIS IS A SIMPLE COPY AND PASTE FROM A COMPETITOR ON FB:

Alan Hall: I don't get why your choosing HERE to make usaci all like drag or Mwspl where people give a Dung Pile about rules.


IF THIS IS THE CASE HELL ILL SAVE MY GAS MONEY AND STAY HOME THIS YEAR, AND JUST LET YALL HAVE AT IT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE A FAIR AND LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IS HAD BY ALL.

SO HOW MANY MORE OF YOU GIYS FEEL THIS WAY?????????


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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 9:35 am

Even if people read the rules, there are so many. contradictions in it that it makes no sense. One part says trucks can use the bed for equipment the. A few sentences later it says you can't. One thing say you can pull panels behind b-pillar, then in a higher class only the ones behind the b-pillar and below the window line. That is just a couple
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 9:41 am

Just like some people saying that rhino lining is not legal, and I have stated several times show me where it says that in the rules. It just has gotten out of hand and it creating problems in the competition scene. Not saying the other orgs are perfect by any means all have their issues. However I see more USACi shows in the south than any other org. So that is where if someone wants to compete that is their only choice. I mean in DFW there is a local org that does shows, and it also has its issues but people go to compete, because there may not be another show that weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 9:59 am

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IM GOING TO ADRESS ALAN

YOU AND ME DONT MIX PERIOD YOU DONT LIKE ME I DONT LIKE YOU IDE RATHER PUNCH YOU IN THE MOUTH THAN GIVE YOU A QUARTER TO BUY A SOFT DRINK MAN.


WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND I FELT THIS WAY LAST YEAR AS WELL YOU HAD A NICE THORUOUGH SMOOTH TRANSITION WHILE IN THE VERIFICATION LANES DIDNT YOU.

I DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE BEING PROFESSIONAL ABOUT WHAT I DO WHEN IM BEING PAID TO DO SO.


I DID START MY COMMENTS ON THE FACE BOOK PAGE TO TRY AND HELP SOMEONE SO THEY WOULD NOT RUN INTO AN ISSUE AT FINALS, BUT LIKE ALWAYS IT TURNED INTO SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERANT THAN THAT DUE TO THE DISLIKE ME AND ALAN HAVE FOR ONE ANOTHER.


ALAN YOU DONT MEAN Dung Pile TO ME AND NEVER WILL. THIS BOTHERS YOU BECAUSE I DONT LIKE YOU WHEN MOST DO ONCE AGAIN I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK OR LIKE.

See that's were your wrong. I don't dislike you.. I really don't concern myself enough with any single person to worry that much about them. And yeah we normally don't mix well in conversation because you choose to be a dick towards me every opportunity you get. And that's cool. That's who you are. But please. Don't ever assume again that I give a rats ass enough about you to worry about if I like you or not. I have much more going on in my life than to be concerned with jeff Sanford.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 10:09 am

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NOT TO MENTION THAT IF USACI IS SUCH AN EASY RELAXED ORG TO RUN HOW COME MORE DRAG GUYS DONT COME OVER AND SHOW THAT ITS IN FACT THIS WAY.


THE ONLY GUYS I CAN THINK OF THAT TRIED THIS WAS MURILLO AND HIS CREW, AND THEY DIDNT WIN

He didn't know what he was doing. The globe was out in the middle of his floor.

Anyway.. what I'm talking about is even though verification is thin at a 1x drag show. Their judges know the rules.. and can answer a rule question without talking it over with another judge..or having to talk to Ralph. And ill gaeantee their finals is much more evenvolved than ours.. I've been to I think 5 drag finals.. there isn't 8 lanes.. there's 2.. and there's 4 Sanmans standing there while you run.. watching.. putting in and removing the sensor.. you can't even open the door or get inside till he's done. This is so like at our finals.. I don't build a enclosure with rubber floor mats or slide a tool box up behind the globe..etc etc.. all stuff that has and can happen.. no one even makes sure the sensor stays in the globe. Someone could pull it out..stuff it high.. then had it back in 2 pieces and say "the sensor fell out when i pulled the globe" and nothing would be said.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 10:33 am

this thread brings lulz to my eyes.

alan your right.

Jeff your on the right track....

your both dix...

let make an orgy


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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 10:45 am

I AGREE WITH WHAT ALAN HAS SAID



WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS PEOPLE NEED TO LET THE PAST BE, AND GET ON WITH THE HERE AND NOW AS WELL AS THE FUTURE
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 10:53 am

Definitely.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 10:57 am

x2 or 3
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:02 am

I agree to let the past go but there are still some grey areas that need attention
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:06 am

I do think its awesome my caps don't have to be in the trunk. Guess I should order more now.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:09 am

umm...SQ too...
follow rules, understand rules, directors and show promoters job. etc.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:11 am

SQ IM NOT FAMILIAR WITH FOR THE SIMPLE FACT I WAS NEVER WILLING TO SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY ON IT LOL


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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:15 am

I personally think SQ should be pulled from any show the director doesn't know or have the ability to judge properly. Even if that means SQ is only judged at 3x point events and finals. So what. It's best. USACi's SQ turnout blows at local events. Finals isn't bad. I honestly think it is a competitor's search for good and consistant judging. That being said, the 'competitor' only exists if the extraneous income exists to build a SQ car properly.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:16 am

WELL A CAP BY DEFINITION ISNT A BATTERY

AND BATTS WERE LIKE I SAID ALLOWED TO BE MOVED AS OF LAST YEAR


THE ONLY THING I DIDNT LIKE WHILE READING THE RULES AGAIN FOR THE 10TH TIME IN A DAY WAS

Battery and Alternator may be upgraded, however the battery may not produce more than 14 volts while
the engine is not running and the alternator may not produce more than 14.7 volts. The driver or
passengerís seats may not be relocated from the factory mounting location.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:17 am

HOW THE HELL DOES AN ALT NOR SPINNING PRODUCE ANYTHING
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:17 am

sanman wrote:
ITS COMMON KNOLEDGE ACTUALLY

Maybe where you are from it is, but i'm guessing 98%+ of people here would not know that.
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:18 am

ALSO HAD SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME LASTNIGHT THAT THE ODDESY PC2150 WAS OVER THE 800SQI RULE

ADN WELL THEY ARE CORRECT ITS TO BIG
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:21 am

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.odysseybatteries.com%2Fbattery%2Fpc2150.htm&h=LAQFxzzjm
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:35 am

sanman wrote:
WELL A CAP BY DEFINITION ISNT A BATTERY

AND BATTS WERE LIKE I SAID ALLOWED TO BE MOVED AS OF LAST YEAR


THE ONLY THING I DIDNT LIKE WHILE READING THE RULES AGAIN FOR THE 10TH TIME IN A DAY WAS

Battery and Alternator may be upgraded, however the battery may not produce more than 14 volts while
the engine is not running and the alternator may not produce more than 14.7 volts. The driver or
passengerís seats may not be relocated from the factory mounting location.

Didn't this get bumped to 15.5? And it reads like 14v batteries are allowed? You just can't charge them higher than 15.5
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:38 am

I don't believe terminal were counted in measuring them. You would subtract .88 from the 9.4 height then. Other orgs also recognized them as being under 800 also
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 11:49 am

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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 12:47 pm

ALAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM

A,B,C IS JUST THE CASING
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 12:48 pm

JUUST LOOKED AT IT AGAIN AND YOUR CORRECT
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 12:50 pm

SEE THIS IS WHAT THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION IS ABOUT CONSTRUCTIVE INFORMATION TO INFORM ALL
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 12:56 pm

JENISSA I THINK IT IS SAD THAT YOU GET PHONE CALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BY GROWN ASS PEOPLE CRYING LIKE LITTLE BABIES BECAUSE THEY DONT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE GETTING THERE WAY IN A SITUATION.

I FEEL THAT ITS LIKE THIS BECAUSE IN THE PAST THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO SO
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 12:57 pm

I THINK MONTY IS TRYING TO GET ME AND ALAN IN BED WITH HIM WITH ALL THIS HOMOSEXUALITY HE IS EXPRESSING
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 1:05 pm

Be glad he hasn't asked to see nude pics yet
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 1:09 pm

lol u must be on caco jd
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PostSubject: Re: OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI   Thu May 24, 2012 1:11 pm

Jeff is a long time competitor. He knows the rules well and does his best to enforce them. He does it because he WANTS TO. He does not get paid, he does not get rewarded, he does if for love of the sport. He can be rough at times. He and I have had several rough patches over the years. Bottom line, he is stepping up and trying to make it better. I wish we had tweny more like him, then the issues being brought up here would no longer be issues.....


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