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PostSubject: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 11:19 am

hey guys,
need some feedback from competitors. in order to start making a push into the lower power classes we are thinking of launching some amps that will be rated 500 x1 @ 4, ultra low stability and 18v capable. we have some proto types already, but never launched the amp into production but may if there is a demand for it. pics show amp in old style heatsink, we will put it in the new white style heatsink for production models.

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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Sounds like a great idea to me, will be great for the 0-1k and 0-600 classes if 500@4ohms. Needs to be equal or greater than the current leading amps in those classes.
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war with the d5
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d5 is a stout amp and the goal is to be at least as good as it is
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 12:15 pm

Well thats what it would take, thats for sure! I'm using a cactus 600.1 and no one even seems to want them anymore, its all about the D5, but i don't blame anyone since its practical for both classes and my amp is not.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 12:15 pm

cracks me up that people still think the d5 is unbeatable when there is 2 amps out there that can match it now



also where are the its about the build not the power people at ????????
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 12:28 pm

sanman wrote:
cracks me up that people still think the d5 is unbeatable when there is 2 amps out there that can match it now



also where are the its about the build not the power people at ????????
Which 2 are you referring to? The Cactus 600 and the Treo 4.1?
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 1:39 pm

yes those 2

even though is 600@4
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 1:46 pm

Do you now if the 4.1s are comparable on 12V too, or is that only with 16V? I remember reading somewhere that the Treos don't do very well on 12V but I can't remember if it was a credible source.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 2:27 pm

no they are not

but 12v doesnt matter 15.5v does and then yes they are
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 2:54 pm

sisco wrote:
hey guys,
need some feedback from competitors. in order to start making a push into the lower power classes we are thinking of launching some amps that will be rated 500 x1 @ 4, ultra low stability and 18v capable. we have some proto types already, but never launched the amp into production but may if there is a demand for it. pics show amp in old style heatsink, we will put it in the new white style heatsink for production models.

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I think it would be nice to see something different. Can pretty much guess what's gonna be in 3 out of 4 vehicles. Was talking to Taylorfade about this the other day.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 3:23 pm

all companies have to do is step up there game this is not a org for consumers its a org for competitors, and they will use whats best not whats the cheapest
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If you build it they will come
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon May 21, 2012 11:25 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeTue May 22, 2012 12:41 am

caps + 4.1




and yes, bring on those amps
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeTue May 22, 2012 9:02 am

thanks for all the positive feedback. after seeing the response here and on other forums we are going to work at getting the amps available asap.
the amp utilizes some of the same components/technology from our original m1mki amplifiers. so even though most b2 amps are engineered for 15.5v applications, do not fear we have experience in ultra low impedance hi voltage design as well.
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sisco wrote:
thanks for all the positive feedback. after seeing the response here and on other forums we are going to work at getting the amps available asap.
the amp utilizes some of the same components/technology from our original m1mki amplifiers. so even though most b2 amps are engineered for 15.5v applications, do not fear we have experience in ultra low impedance hi voltage design as well.

Good stuff!
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeTue May 22, 2012 12:44 pm

do what treo did over price that Dung Pile and see who wants to pay for it lol
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeTue May 22, 2012 3:10 pm

^^^
lol Yeah, price will definitely be a factor in how successful these are.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeTue Jun 05, 2012 6:08 pm

I'm not super familiar with how to stick pix on here and make them large enough so you can see them, so I will refer you to this link!

http://www.carstereoclassifieds.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5212

Stout little amp, the amp featured in that link is the last of the black heatsink amps from europe, new u.s. market amps will have the white heatsink.

I know from experience that competing is expensive, and that normally people with the most $ win in USACi. With that in mind, we are trying to make an even playing field for everyone and trying our best to keep the pricing of the amplifier reasonable. So, we are offering the amp to competitors at the price of $925. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeTue Jun 05, 2012 6:20 pm

awesome to see!! i am super stoked to see how it does looks very good!! taylor has 1 in his hands right now so hopefully he gets some good tests!!
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeTue Jun 05, 2012 8:21 pm

Thanks Chris!!
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon Jul 16, 2012 1:28 pm

After some testing and redesigning, here is a pic of the 2012 guinea pig of the Zero5 pcb. Production will be with red PCB, B2 logos on caps, and in the white heatsink. Small amp, big power. 18v ready. Amps will be here in the states in 4-6 weeks.

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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon Jul 16, 2012 2:45 pm

sanman wrote:
all companies have to do is step up there game this is not a org for consumers its a org for competitors, and they will use whats best not whats the cheapest
wild guess they play the exact same scores.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon Jul 16, 2012 2:51 pm

new version is a a good bit diff.lol like that dual input! cant wait to see how it does. everybody knows the d5 and 4.1 are hard to beat but if its another option for people then that is always a good thing!!
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon Jul 16, 2012 3:02 pm

Oh so it makes more power than the other amp in the pics?
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PostSubject: Re: Just a thought   Just a thought Icon_minitimeMon Jul 16, 2012 3:11 pm

target is the same power, just smaller footprint and more effecient, so will get as loud with less battery. also the one yall tested had the 16v driver card in it, these will all be 18v, so we will be down on power at lower voltages but can hopefully get a little more umpff with the big voltage.
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Yeah the driver card is minor.
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