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PostSubject: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeSun Oct 16, 2011 7:51 pm

Well for my first time ever running SB1 I only did a 147.7. I had to do the run with the car off because my factory alt wouldn't take the load and I would have killed the poor thing. So I ran on batt power only. Oh well! Back to the drawing board.
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeSun Oct 16, 2011 7:59 pm

it wont kill the alt man it will be ok but voltage will drop. what is your setup?
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeSun Oct 16, 2011 9:36 pm

The alt only puts out 55amp at 3600rpm. No after market alt will fit a 1st Gen rex without a lot of modding and expense that I can't do right now. I can run the car for a burp, but for 30+ sec. i'm afraid I will pop the diodes. Then I would be walking home.
The setup is 1 factory batt + 2 running 2 DDM3's and 2 DD9510's.
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeMon Oct 17, 2011 1:26 am

thats odd the stock alt. should be able to take that load scratch
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeMon Oct 17, 2011 1:28 am

i just got done building a 88 corolla with 2 d9s and 2 9515s i run it off the stock alt. will do low fifties all day...
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeMon Oct 17, 2011 2:14 am

Back in the late 80's I would go through an alt a week. That was back when Chief Auto Parts (no longer in business) was open 24hrs. Every Sat. night I would be in there parking lot changing alts out to the point I could change one in about 15 min in the parking lot. After changing out my fifth alt in as many weeks, I just stopped playing my system full tilt. 55amp is not 55amp at idle speed. Next show I go to I will be trailering the car so I will run it.
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeMon Oct 17, 2011 5:16 pm

do you have the big 3 done too? and what engine is it in there? i have a 320a but i have a 2nd gen
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeMon Oct 17, 2011 5:25 pm

he has a 40 amp alt if im not mistaken wich i could be


i had a 1st gen crx at one time, and well it sucked nothing we did would perk it up. save a few 100 bix and get a 2nd gen man and gain 3-4 off the batt its that much differance
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeMon Oct 17, 2011 6:00 pm

yeah we had a teammate who could sb a 150 in his 1st gen with 2 10's but never got to play anymore with it as he sold it like a month later.lol i actually still have the box we used in it 2 10''s forward with a 8" aero out the back and the rear wall was kerfed on both sides.
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeMon Oct 17, 2011 6:00 pm

and that was 2 aq 10's on a d9
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 12:25 am

poundstone wrote:
do you have the big 3 done too? and what engine is it in there? i have a 320a but i have a 2nd gen

The engine is the EV1 1300 about 55-65hp. My motorcycle has a bigger emgine in it.

As far as getting a 2nd gen, won't happen unless someone gives me one for free LOL. BUT! From my experience with a first gen, (I have had one just like this one since 1984) their is only 2 way I know how to get it somewhat louder. The problem i'm having now is I am listening to and doing what others have sugested I do and following others designs that work well in a second gen. Those don't seem to work very well in mine. I'm sure there are other amps and different subs I could try, but I have to do with what I have.

One way I have found that work well in my car is a box that fills the back of the car with panels to flush everything out with a crap load of power. This worked well for me 10 years ago. Might not now though.

The second way was a wall with panels flushing the front of the wall out also with a crap load of power. This worked well for me 22 years ago. Also might not work now.

Other then that I don't know what else I can do that won't cost anything more then buying wood and time for a build.

And Sanman. I would love nothing more then to get a second gen. Damn how I wish I could get one, but I just can't. I know you had a first gen at one time. Is there anything else as far a box design goes that I could try?
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 5:34 am

rodney green had the loudest 1st gen that i know of 157.7 was the loudest he got on 2 crunk 15's. and 4 big ass amps dont remember the names right now

15's up 4 4" aeros back
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 5:53 am

sanman wrote:
rodney green had the loudest 1st gen that i know of 157.7 was the loudest he got on 2 crunk 15's. and 4 big ass amps dont remember the names right now

15's up 4 4" aeros back

I should give him a call. I use to compete with him back 9-11 years ago. He basically used the same sub setup I had then. One big difference is i'm going to try to do the same kinds of numbers, but with 2 10's. I too had 15's up with 8 Directed DEI 1100d's. All it takes is a $hit load of power to get the #'s 2nd gens get with a lot less.
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 5:01 pm

well i know that box i said does a 150+ sb in a first gen on just 1 d9 and shitty ass electrical it was stock alt and 2 crappy batts. i can take a pic of it but its pretty simple.lol
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 5:23 pm

yank the a/c compressor out! You can fit a nice little alt in that space Very Happy
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1 alt only in sb
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 5:55 pm

Please send me a pic of the box. And Barret the AC in the car is functional. I would hate to lose that AC in Texas heat. Also I did have a aftermarket alt in the factory location at one time. Had to remove the drivers side half shaft and make a special bracket for it to fit. It had a 5 groove pulley, but I could only use the factory 3 groove belt. The belt had to be so tight I had to have extra belts with me at all times because they keept breaking. And the engine couldn't handle the load of the alt and would die unless I revved the engine to over 3500rpm. The car just doesn't have the nuts to run an alt larger then what I have.
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 6:16 pm

it will man i got a d15b2 in mine running a iraggi 320a it barely fits but works good.lol does bog down a bit on my runs but thats to be expected.lol ill take a pic in a min and post it
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 6:17 pm

Well, i wasn't necessarily implying to add it as a second in that location, but to remove the oem, but if that's out of the question, then i understand. "most" of us here don't run a/c's on our honda's, i had stripped mine off my integra, but now its out in texas and that guy has no a/c - even though he has spent thousands more on the car performance wise..
Did those come with power steering?
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 6:18 pm

My EG hatch had the 70 hp D15, with a 150a alt, and hauled around a box with 8 12's in it... it no go very fast...
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 6:31 pm

here is a pic of it in the car if you want i can take a pic of it but that means me dragging it out of the corner.lol and keep in mind this is just a slapped together overnight for a show box.lol

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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeTue Oct 18, 2011 6:47 pm

twentyhurtz wrote:
Well, i wasn't necessarily implying to add it as a second in that location, but to remove the oem, but if that's out of the question, then i understand. "most" of us here don't run a/c's on our honda's, i had stripped mine off my integra, but now its out in texas and that guy has no a/c - even though he has spent thousands more on the car performance wise..
Did those come with power steering?

twentyhurtz wrote:
My EG hatch had the 70 hp D15, with a 150a alt, and hauled around a box with 8 12's in it... it no go very fast...

My car slows down on any incline wat so ever. And my alt I had in the car back then killed the engine everytime I turned on the amps. LOL
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Poundstone you have PM.
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeWed Oct 19, 2011 3:34 am

OK! I'm going to yank everything out of the car and start over again.
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeWed Oct 19, 2011 4:59 pm

pm'd back man. sorry didnt see it till now.
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NP. You have PM. lol
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PostSubject: Re: That sucked   That sucked Icon_minitimeThu Oct 27, 2011 10:02 pm

I found one of the problems today. One of the subs. The surround separated from the cone. Sending it in for an RMA.
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