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PostSubject: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 24, 2011 12:17 pm

First topic message reminder :

2000 ford explorer 4 door

i havnt had my explorer but for about 4 months and havnt done much testing with deadning or anything. is there any do or dont sweet spots to deaden on it. i have 2 layers on the back hatch and thats it.

on a sub up port back box what side is louder to mic on. the driver or passenger?

also any other tips for precious tenths would be greatly appreciated. ive only managed a 153.7 so far :/ and i have a competition tommorow in dallas.

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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 12:49 pm

I've had lots of differant setups that were loud in explorers/mountaineers. That particular setup was 6-12s, 4-5kw's, 5 nsb90's and 12 runs of 1/0 with a upgraded alt. The same setup with 4-12s was only a couple tenths down.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 3:46 pm

ok well i need to sell my 18s in the near future and do 4 12s i guess. in this case less cone area is better for explorers i see. thanks for all the info guys. i did 2 layers of deadner on the cargo floor and sides. then i spray foamed the driver side, waiting for it to dry now. then ill shave it and put deadner over it and repeat on the passenger side.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 3:52 pm

how much will i gain from running 3 runs from the alt to battery and 3 runs from front batt to back bank? reason i ask is because i just put a nice big battery up front and its super tight. dont know if i have enough room to add 4-6 more connectors, wire and all that up there.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 3:59 pm

You gain on power wire by doubling it. The more the better. Not to say that cone are isn't a good thing but you get to a point where it just gain alot, plus 18s take up to much width in there.


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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 4:01 pm

dang. well the batt up front is on its side so i may get toolmaker or someone to make one of those L bracket buss bars so i can put all the connectors and wire on the top aka side of the battery if that makes sense. anyone have any for sale?
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 4:34 pm

just do what i did man get u some aluminum stock in 1" strips and drill it out every 1.5"'s and put bolts through it then connect it to your batt i have 10 runs connected up front like that 5- 5+ plus my big 3 and alt wires and other stuff works great and my batt is on its side too.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 4:44 pm

I didn't mean the box was too big for the 18s, just too big in general for an explorer. Try too stay at stock height, which I think is 14.5 height.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 4:48 pm

oh ok i gotcha. and my stock height is 17. whats the easiest way to bend aluminum without it breaking? i dont have a torch to heat it up is why im asking.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 5:00 pm

u shouldnt have to bend it what i did was just connected all my wires then slid it down in place ill see if i can get a pic posted of it but if it needs bent just put it in a vice and use vice grips to bend it
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 5:05 pm

heres a pic of mine ill take a better one later but u can see the idea at least

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=536822816418&set=at.536796379398.2030495.80701599.1763584607&type=1&theater
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 6:03 pm

pic doesnt work. try again sir lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 6:07 pm

lol photobucket isnt working right now and that was ust a link to my facebook ill take a pic and post it later. u cant click on the link?
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 6:19 pm

no it says its currently unavailible
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 6:47 pm

heres my pics of the deadning and expanding foam process, on the foam do i need to faom it completly shut or is the amount i have ok? i did fill the entire c pillar with foam top to bottom but scared to do it here cuz the gas tank. am i in the clear on it?

also u like the 4th battery hiding spot?

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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 7:14 pm

ok its workin now here are some pics.lol

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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 8:04 pm

i dont even have that much room. i would have to bend it and put the connectors on the top of the battery. i thought of what u did but realized i dont have extra space as you do.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 8:11 pm

i got the hidden battery idea from this guy. (gonna do about 3 and 3 for wire. this guy has 10 and 10 i believe)
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and this is the idea im looking for for the underhood battery, see how he has no room on the side, same thing with mine i need to go on top to make multiple runs.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 10:37 pm

That first pic is the 6 10s guy i was talking about Wagonized on Termpro
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 10:46 pm

both pics are his actually but yes thats what i am doing when i get more wire and stuff, trying to sell my battery and 18s now to get funds for 4 12s since that seems to be the way to go. know anyone with 4 12s for sale? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 28, 2011 12:04 am

I wouldn't run the wire and batt there that area wants to be closed off and dynamatted closed
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 28, 2011 1:15 am

i need to run 4 batts on stock alt so it will stay there for now and when i get a HO alt ill remove that batt and seal it off. thanks for all the info guys. now if i can only find some 12s.
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 28, 2011 8:31 am

4 batts is plenty of power for the amps you have
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 28, 2011 8:59 am

Yep. Need all 4 for them 1700s at .35 and daily 100 plus degree days
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 03, 2011 11:48 am

another show is today for me, lets hope for the 155 this time,

these are some things ive changed....

took the small c and d out up front and put a big sprinter 370 in there (less voltage drop)
deadened the hatch area and foam 2 panels
did 2 runs of 1/0 instead of 1 for all my grounds and jumper wires.
moved batts longways so i can slide box back about another 8 inches(better loading hopefully)
took floor mats out completly (heard it was good for .2)
and i have some more interior tricks that are all good for small .1-.4 gains)

i will update this thread tonight. thanks to skip01, solo1 and fecupe2001 on termpro as well.
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good luck!
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good luck!!
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PostSubject: Re: Explorer Experts, i need some tips   Explorer Experts, i need some tips - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 03, 2011 4:14 pm

well it was 102 out here and voltage was only 13.8 Sad still managed a 154.7. My hu wont let me go full tilt without shutting off so I'm gonna make a snake and should kill that problem
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Why can't you go full tilt?
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i dont know, i think its vibration resetting the HU. i get like 3/4 the way up and it either starts to skip or completly turns off then right back on.
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I had that problem in the civic. Now i just run it off the back batts. Rca and power remote and ground and I leave the deck in the front hooked up for the ride home
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