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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: sundown sa12s ? Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:47 am | |
| Does anyone know anything about these subs? Are they good for spl? Thinking about running 8 of these on 2 stetsoms 7k2d's | |
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chrisbaldelli Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 559 Age : 39 Location : Houston, TX Registration date : 2008-11-30
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:14 am | |
| mbrooky ran sa-10's whenever his beefy subs needed reconing... Ran each of them with a hefty amount of power, too.
They're solid subs. The power rating is just so Jacob doesn't have to deal with so many warranty issues. 14kW on 8 subs... that's 1800 per... ummm. They'll take it, but they won't like it for too long. Small box theory will be needed to prevent bottoming, even though those woofers have plenty of xmech.
SA's are some of the best mid-power subs around. Sounds good on music, and plenty of xmax for low frequency daily music. If you're smart about what frequencies you play, SA-12's should take an SPL box and 1800wRMS a few times. | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:58 pm | |
| Well its gunna be about 75-79 Hz for burps. | |
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Blue_C1500 Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 112 Age : 50 Location : Louisiana Registration date : 2010-03-28
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:41 pm | |
| - mrbashful210 wrote:
- Does anyone know anything about these subs? Are they good for spl? Thinking about running 8 of these on 2 stetsoms 7k2d's
-> Here's<- a vid of Skip01 doing a 150.4 with 1 sa12 on 2 SAZ-2500Ds. I don't know where his gains were or if he ever clamped to see what he was actually putting to it but it was still working when he got rid of it. Sundown way underrates their stuff. I have 4 of the old 1500rms Nightshade 15s in my truck with a SAZ-3500D at .5Ω on each one and I beat the sh!t out of them. They take it pretty well. | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:59 pm | |
| Man its either 8 of these or keep my rds. .... this sport is so frustrating at some points... but well worth it in the end | |
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chrisfish I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6521 Age : 54 Location : Silt Colorado Registration date : 2009-05-16
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:32 pm | |
| Keep the RD's there the loudest. Might concider d9's. | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:01 pm | |
| So you think 3 15"s rds would be louder then 8 12s ? | |
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chrisfish I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6521 Age : 54 Location : Silt Colorado Registration date : 2009-05-16
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:10 pm | |
| I am not sure what you have. But I have seen 3 15's hit 164's | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:02 am | |
| I have the alpha Max's. .. I have 4 total thinking about trading for the sa12s... but Idk yet | |
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jmanjr82 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 900 Age : 40 Location : missouri Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:14 am | |
| 4-15s would be (706.5sqin of cone area) 8-12s would be (904.32sqin of cone area) obviously alot of people would lean to using the most cone area they could for various reasons. Kumar and rowland are prime examples of using cone area to the fullest and have done very well doing so. Giving the power your talking about I would lean towards the 12s. | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:20 am | |
| Its actually 3 15"s. ... this is going in my s10. | |
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chrisfish I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6521 Age : 54 Location : Silt Colorado Registration date : 2009-05-16
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:51 am | |
| I was wanting to try mod with my s10 but I took everyone's advice and didn't. 8 12' s would look cool as Hell in there though. | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:42 pm | |
| I'm trying to stay in stock class... I did some measuring and looks like I can fit all 8 below the window line. | |
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chrisfish I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6521 Age : 54 Location : Silt Colorado Registration date : 2009-05-16
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:52 pm | |
| 4 forward 4 up small port up? | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:47 pm | |
| All forward. ... looks very close but me thinks me can fit them. | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:22 am | |
| Has anyone tried 8 12s in a s10 before? ? | |
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jmanjr82 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 900 Age : 40 Location : missouri Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:10 am | |
| It has been tried, but 3-15s or 3-18s has prevailed. Give it a shot. FYI I said 4-15s because 1 you didnt mention the vehicle being used and 2 you said you had 4. | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:51 pm | |
| Idk how the hell someone can squeeze 3 18s in there.... I guess ill just stick with my 15s.. trying to get loud. | |
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Alarm God Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1272 Age : 52 Location : Arlington,TX Registration date : 2007-11-14
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:23 pm | |
| Look at Taylorfades truck He did 3 18's | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:27 pm | |
| Where would I find piks of that?? If he wouldn't mind sharing the basic layout to fit them | |
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jmanjr82 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 900 Age : 40 Location : missouri Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:11 am | |
| perhaps shoot him a pm an ask? | |
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HallMarc Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 56 Age : 44 Location : West Point, Ms Registration date : 2011-05-08
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Mon May 09, 2011 11:42 pm | |
| I had one behind the seat in a 3ft3 box tuned @ about 40hz on an old Planet Audio 225. Flames... Literally caught on fire while sitting at a red light. I never metered it though... | |
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strpperpolef150 Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 206 Age : 35 Location : Baton Rouge Registration date : 2010-04-13
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Tue May 10, 2011 1:07 am | |
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HallMarc Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 56 Age : 44 Location : West Point, Ms Registration date : 2011-05-08
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Tue May 10, 2011 2:01 am | |
| The only thing "wrong" was the box was twice recommended ft3, but I built it to be loud and succeeded very well | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Tue May 10, 2011 5:55 am | |
| dam those sa15s seem pretty good... | |
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strpperpolef150 Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 206 Age : 35 Location : Baton Rouge Registration date : 2010-04-13
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Tue May 10, 2011 2:08 pm | |
| - HallMarc wrote:
- The only thing "wrong" was the box was twice recommended ft3, but I built it to be loud and succeeded very well
on what power and was it clipped bad? If it caught fire something caused it to heat up which is usually clipping. | |
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outsideshot23 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 638 Age : 37 Location : OK Registration date : 2009-09-13
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Tue May 10, 2011 2:24 pm | |
| - mrbashful210 wrote:
- Has anyone tried 8 12s in a s10 before? ?
ive seen it several times.. never seen them break a 60.. usually high 59s | |
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HallMarc Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 56 Age : 44 Location : West Point, Ms Registration date : 2011-05-08
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Tue May 10, 2011 9:11 pm | |
| - strpperpolef150 wrote:
- HallMarc wrote:
- The only thing "wrong" was the box was twice recommended ft3, but I built it to be loud and succeeded very well
on what power and was it clipped bad? If it caught fire something caused it to heat up which is usually clipping. Never clipped once, not real sure how much power was going to it. The old Planet 225 was and still is a beast, 20watts x2 rms @4ohms. Its illegal to run now unless you run it in unlimited class. I found a spec sheet on it once, don't quote me to it but I believe it put 1200-1800 bridged at .5ohms. You put that power on a 1500 watt sub in a 4ft3 box... Not good, well not to mention I played it pretty hard for about 45mins... Way I see it though; HOLD UP or FOLD UP... Still bad ass subs I should be some sort of tester, Swear I can tear up anything... | |
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mrbashful210 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 606 Age : 41 Location : SA TOWN Registration date : 2010-04-26
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Tue May 10, 2011 9:31 pm | |
| im seeing if i can get some custom made in dual .5s.. i got alot of testing to do for finals.. redoing my rds and been playing with some mmats also... | |
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strpperpolef150 Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 206 Age : 35 Location : Baton Rouge Registration date : 2010-04-13
| Subject: Re: sundown sa12s ? Wed May 11, 2011 3:02 pm | |
| - HallMarc wrote:
- strpperpolef150 wrote:
- HallMarc wrote:
- The only thing "wrong" was the box was twice recommended ft3, but I built it to be loud and succeeded very well
on what power and was it clipped bad? If it caught fire something caused it to heat up which is usually clipping. Never clipped once, not real sure how much power was going to it. The old Planet 225 was and still is a beast, 20watts x2 rms @4ohms. Its illegal to run now unless you run it in unlimited class. I found a spec sheet on it once, don't quote me to it but I believe it put 1200-1800 bridged at .5ohms. You put that power on a 1500 watt sub in a 4ft3 box... Not good, well not to mention I played it pretty hard for about 45mins... Way I see it though; HOLD UP or FOLD UP... Still bad ass subs I should be some sort of tester, Swear I can tear up anything... You scoped it? You just answered why it happened....over double the power in a huge box will cause failure. | |
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