atomic & rd

Can someone explain the differences and similaritys on these two company's subs??

one is from atomic and the other is from RD.

Rd is made at atomic buildhouse.

What are the differences?

so are the atomic subs the exact thing as RD? and if so, why does everyone run RD and not atomic, Im talking about the Heavy weights, and super heavy weights.

Can somebody stop this cat fight?????? Lol

The only difference is cosmetic the back plate is different. As far as why people use rd instead of atomic not sure I'm running atomic next year.

Well ill find out if numbers are different.. gunna try Atomic as soon as I sell my rds. .. anyone else have a different thoughts?

In most testing I noticed the RDs were louder, not by a whole hell of alot but a few tenths is win or lose as we all know. I tried the Ap/Spl against the alpha and the elite spl and the alpha was a few tenths louder, the elite spl was 1.2 louder same box same power obviously (all I did was drop different woofers in. The tried the apx against the heavyweight and the heavyweight was 0.2 louder, I honestly didnt notice much i sound, power handling, or anything else, I think the only reason people were going with RD is because they were getting a better deal from Steve then they were from George thats why I ran rd.

I run RD cause i like the customer service... And the other is ive always fkn hated George he is a bidness man about like Steve if you ask me.. I know it comes from George but im not buying it from George nor ever have to deal with george so in my mind im paying RD not George hey it works for me guys.. And Joel has done nothing but be a stand up guy with me so i run his product... Did i mention i hated that chinese fizzzzzzzzzzzcuker

Both companies are built by sja which is george/atomics build house. (Who also builds woofers for american bass and a few others) as far as the woofers appearence rd,s have backplate that is beveled differently. They use the same softparts...but I'm unsure if the coils are the same measurements. The difference could be in the internal measurements of the motors. Like the gap and pole piece. I've always used rd...since before a lot of you were born lol. Joel is a stand up guy and I've never talked with george. I hear mixed opinions about him. But both atomic and rd. Woofers...well sja woofers in general have a pretty high build qulity to them

Ok thanks guys.

jmanjr82 wrote:

In most testing I noticed the RDs were louder, not by a whole hell of alot but a few tenths is win or lose as we all know. I tried the Ap/Spl against the alpha and the elite spl and the alpha was a few tenths louder, the elite spl was 1.2 louder same box same power obviously (all I did was drop different woofers in. The tried the apx against the heavyweight and the heavyweight was 0.2 louder, I honestly didnt notice much i sound, power handling, or anything else, I think the only reason people were going with RD is because they were getting a better deal from Steve then they were from George thats why I ran rd.

What was the gain from the heavyweight and the alpha in your test?

sorry george and joel. but there is nothing different between them besides the logo. i have seen soe different spider set ups on HW that are built for music but thats about it.

just go with the one that gives u the best deal to me that would be RD and between the RD HW and the SHW is a 3 inch coil and 4 inch coil

Bottom plates are cosmetically different and like I said I've never spec'd the coils or gap measurements. Could be the same

I'm actually getting a better deal from Randy at Atomic..... about 150 less a sub. Joel wont cut me no slack....

hunterw wrote:

Bottom plates are cosmetically different and like I said I've never spec'd the coils or gap measurements. Could be the same

85-86 mm.. aka 856 motor...

george szawan wrote:

just go with the one that gives u the best deal to me that would be RD and between the RD HW and the SHW is a 3 inch coil and 4 inch coil

yeah apx and apxx..

This is one reason there is no support for this sport, everyone looking for a deal and we wonder were have the mfg gone, stick with a product make it work show some love!!! remember the days of Rf even Kicker subs would blow up after each run people stuck with them. Quad

I never really tested the alpha against the heavy weight, because honestly I didnt see the point the elite spl woofer was louder then the alpha so I went with them. The heavy weight 12 vs the Elite SPL 12 was just about dead nuts on in my 12in test box with the same power, but the heavy weight took alot more power, got louder using more then 3k watts, and took more damage if you will then the elite spl I locked the elite spl up several times, never locked the heavy weight or the super heavy weight up.

So if I wanted to keep my rds and get them reconed I Can use atomic soft parts?

mrbashful210 wrote:

So if I wanted to keep my rds and get them reconed I Can use atomic soft parts?

Yes you can. They are exactly the same. They both come from atomic. I even had Atomic send me an RD dustcap back when I was still representing them as RD's. The last recones I ordered, I had them send atomic dust caps.

I have tested alpha max aganst the HW's I got the same number with each.

Can anyone tell me what the alpha Max is equivalent to in Atomics line up?

OUCH!!!!!!! Morally if i knew i couldn't tell ya. Thats to low a blow for JIMBO.....LOL I know i know suprising i do have some morals..... But honestly i dont know the answer though bro.

chrisfish wrote:

I have tested alpha max aganst the HW's I got the same number with each.

With big power the HW's shine! I am only in 0-1000 so ...

Stingraysevenout wrote:

OUCH!!!!!!! Morally if i knew i couldn't tell ya. Thats to low a blow for JIMBO.....LOL I know i know suprising i do have some morals..... But honestly i dont know the answer though bro.

LOL I know morals jimbo???? Wow hope it doesn't storm at Your show! LOL

Well I'm looking to have about 10k per sub on burps Max.. and 7k the least.. but not till late next year. For now bout 4 k each.

I would definatly get the apx then if you need that kinda power... or see what he may have better than apx now not sure...

And knock on wood fool dat chit aint funny dammmit...LOL JK it was a lil funny ..