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PostSubject: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:04 pm

Quoted from the Street Beat rules page on www.soundoff.org:
* INTERIOR MODIFICATION LIMITS: No constructed enclosure or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL sensor may be placed forward of the "B" pillar and will be considered reason to reclassify the vehicle to the Port Wars or Super Port Wars divisions or disqualification. This decision will be at the discretion of the head judge. Factory or factory replacement front seats must be installed in the vehicle in factory locations. Must have the front bench or both front seats. No woofers larger than 8" inches may be forward of the "B" pillars.

Ok with that being stated I need to know if I used fiberglass instead of dynamat on the floorboard under the factory carpet could I still run in SB or would that disqualify the vehicle?

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:40 pm

I might need to look this up but in my opinion it does not say anything about modifications just manipulation of the mic. In regular SPL rules this would be considered a super mod vehicle but don't think so in SB.

This is something that needs to go to rules and ethics.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:12 pm

I have made a request to R&E as well, have not had a response yet.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:26 pm

When a rule is in question, it goes back to the USACI SPL rulebook. In thus case this vehicle would be placed in SB5 or super port wars or super mod. This is considered mic manipulation.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:46 pm

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When a rule is in question, it goes back to the USACI SPL rulebook. In thus case this vehicle would be placed in SB5 or super port wars or super mod. This is considered mic manipulation.

You forgot supermod, and SB5 has the same rules as SB4. How would it manipulate the mic? There is no constructed enclosure or speakers that would manipulate the sensor.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:49 pm

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When a rule is in question, it goes back to the USACI SPL rulebook. In thus case this vehicle would be placed in SB5 or super port wars or super mod. This is considered mic manipulation.


Actually the rule applies to SB5 as well. I believe Rowlands removed overhead console prior to finals to not be disqualified/contested for SB5. Jeff please confirm.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:49 pm

If you applyed it to the side where the mic is, that is manipulation.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:01 pm

This is tough, my first response was Super Mod or the Port Classes. Then after I 2nd guessed myself thinking maybe just lining the floor in SB would be ok according to the SB rules sheet in 2009.

Now thinking back on it any modifications done forward to the B Pillar would go back to my first response, only because 1/2 way thru the year it was judged by R&E that SB would fall under the SPL rules and there would not be a SB Rules sheet by itself any longer.

STILL TOUGH ONE TO CALL!

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:05 pm

Thanks for your response Jenissa. It would be good to get definite answer on this.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:09 pm

I THINK IT SHOULD BE LEGAL..... DONT SEE HOW ITS DIFFERENT THAN DYNOMAT

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:11 pm

YOU KNW ON SECOND THOUGHT JUST BUY SOME DB BLUE IT GOES ON LIKE FIBERGLASS AND WILL STIFFEN UP THE CAR AS WELL

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:11 pm

Dynamat is made to deaden and Fiberglass is made to strenthen.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:18 pm

ShowB wrote:
This is tough, my first response was Super Mod or the Port Classes. Then after I 2nd guessed myself thinking maybe just lining the floor in SB would be ok according to the SB rules sheet in 2009.

Now thinking back on it any modifications done forward to the B Pillar would go back to my first response, only because 1/2 way thru the year it was judged by R&E that SB would fall under the SPL rules and there would not be a SB Rules sheet by itself any longer.

STILL TOUGH ONE TO CALL!

2010 RULES are anything not mentioned in SB portion will fall back to the SPL guidelines and any changes needed or questions should be brought to R&E Committee.



WOW...so Supermod is what he should have been in. Look at that. Learn something new everyday.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:08 am

Wow Rxzilla you are reaching on that aren't you. It does not state that a "supermod" as you would like to call it cannot be run in SB. Plus the question was asked strickly about streetbeat. Not what class would it be in. So STFU. If I wanted to know what class it would put it in I would have stated that not can this be done for SB.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:14 am

And dynamat is made to reduce vibrations, thus strengthing the area it is applied too. So how is that any different then fiberglass? Plus fiberglass will break underpressure where as dynamat will not.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:44 am

Alarm God wrote:
And dynamat is made to reduce vibrations, thus strengthing the area it is applied too. So how is that any different then fiberglass? Plus fiberglass will break underpressure where as dynamat will not.


can you build a box out of only dynamat? 'cause you can with glass. Thats a pretty big difference. with glass you extend your box forward. fiberglass is an enclosure building material. back to the rule. NO ENCLOSURE IN FRONT OF THE B PILLAR. so if I screw mdf to the floor board and claim it is not box, then it is legal?

really, you are just a small fish in sb5.

and yes roland did take his mdf headliner out after he asked if it was legal and was told it was not.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:20 am

Yes however it takes multiple layers to construct an enclosure out of fiberglass. I was asking about 1 layer. Plus it is not a constructed enclosure.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:21 am

that would make u a supermod...... but what if u put a girl on the passanger side with the mic the rules say unmanned not unwomen..... what now Jenissa

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:02 am

rd s10 wrote:
that would make u a supermod...... but what if u put a girl on the passanger side with the mic the rules say unmanned not unwomen..... what now Jenissa

lol! lol! lol! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:10 am

Alarm God wrote:
Wow Rxzilla you are reaching on that aren't you. It does not state that a "supermod" as you would like to call it cannot be run in SB. Plus the question was asked strickly about streetbeat. Not what class would it be in. So STFU. If I wanted to know what class it would put it in I would have stated that not can this be done for SB.



The only one that is reaching is you and you shadey builds. You got away with this at finals, I wouldn't push it. That vehicle was to be placed in Supermod.

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