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PostSubject: Street Beat Rule Question   Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:04 pm

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Quoted from the Street Beat rules page on www.soundoff.org:
* INTERIOR MODIFICATION LIMITS: No constructed enclosure or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL sensor may be placed forward of the "B" pillar and will be considered reason to reclassify the vehicle to the Port Wars or Super Port Wars divisions or disqualification. This decision will be at the discretion of the head judge. Factory or factory replacement front seats must be installed in the vehicle in factory locations. Must have the front bench or both front seats. No woofers larger than 8" inches may be forward of the "B" pillars.

Ok with that being stated I need to know if I used fiberglass instead of dynamat on the floorboard under the factory carpet could I still run in SB or would that disqualify the vehicle?

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:33 am

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that would make u a supermod...... but what if u put a girl on the passanger side with the mic the rules say unmanned not unwomen..... what now Jenissa


you're a funny funny guy. how 'bout a five hundred pound fat chick that makes your truck lay frame? redefine ground and pound. lol

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:39 am

someone forgot to check the floors at finals lol

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:53 am

as a mater of fact the judge checked my headliner for mods. He pulled on it, poked at it, and banged on the outside of my truck. Seems to me the floorboard would be more pertinent to spl manipulation. But hey man, the fact is that you are real freaking loud. If slipping one by at finals is how you want to prove it, thats cool.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:58 am

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Wow Rxzilla you are reaching on that aren't you. It does not state that a "supermod" as you would like to call it cannot be run in SB. Plus the question was asked strickly about streetbeat. Not what class would it be in. So STFU. If I wanted to know what class it would put it in I would have stated that not can this be done for SB.



The only one that is reaching is you and you shadey builds. You got away with this at finals, I wouldn't push it. That vehicle was to be placed in Supermod.


Well if that is the case then if you read the rules as they are stated in the outlaw rules:Stock/prostock:The floor, ceiling and dashboard
must be OEM or equivalent to include all fabrics, coverings and carpets. So no dynamat in this class.
Modified:The floor, ceiling and dashboard must be OEM. So no dynamat there either.
Supermod:The floor, ceiling and dashboard may be modified. So I guess everyone's vehicle should be in this class then. Because I dont know how many people do not have dynamat on their roof/floor. But according to the rules as they are written they can only be oem or equivalent replacements. That is why I even asked the question about it. So does that mean everyone now competes in supermod?

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:02 am

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Wow Rxzilla you are reaching on that aren't you. It does not state that a "supermod" as you would like to call it cannot be run in SB. Plus the question was asked strickly about streetbeat. Not what class would it be in. So STFU. If I wanted to know what class it would put it in I would have stated that not can this be done for SB.



The only one that is reaching is you and you shadey builds. You got away with this at finals, I wouldn't push it. That vehicle was to be placed in Supermod.


Well if that is the case then if you read the rules as they are stated in the outlaw rules:Stock/prostock:The floor, ceiling and dashboard
must be OEM or equivalent to include all fabrics, coverings and carpets. So no dynamat in this class.
Modified:The floor, ceiling and dashboard must be OEM. So no dynamat there either.
Supermod:The floor, ceiling and dashboard may be modified. So I guess everyone's vehicle should be in this class then. Because I dont know how many people do not have dynamat on their roof/floor. But according to the rules as they are written they can only be oem or equivalent replacements. That is why I even asked the question about it. So does that mean everyone now competes in supermod?




Not everyone is in question, you assume they have this, YOUR VEHICLE WAS CAUGHT HAVING THIS AND WAS PLACED IN THE WRONG CLASS AT FINALS. If thats how you want to win, then what else can you do? The explorer should have been in Supermod as per the rules. Its how they are writen, not how you bend or twist them.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:10 am

For the record, back in 2000 Dynamat was questioned by another competitor, USACI found it that Dynamat was an approved marterial used and deemed legal by the R&E committy. Fiberglass and wood were deemed as illegal as they where construction material. Its just like an amp that gets and offical rating. The rule book does not state how many layers you can or cannot use. In another org, you can only use 2 layers.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:16 am

look here alarm guy. if your intention when you put the fiberglass in was for any reason other than higher spl, then you are retarded and wasting money. now, if you put the fiberglass to manipulate the spl then that makes more sense. if manipulating the spl was legal. Then either you are going to claim that you are retarded enough to put in fiberglass for no reason, or that you did in fact put that glass there strictly for the sole reason of manipulating the pressure. which one is it? you cant have your cake .....................

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:21 am

Taken from the 2009 USACI rulebook....


Any construction or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL meter may be considered
reason to reclassify the vehicle to the Port Wars division or disqualification. This decision will be
at the discretion of the head judge.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:25 am

RXZILLA wrote:
Not everyone is in question, you assume they have this, YOUR VEHICLE WAS CAUGHT HAVING THIS AND WAS PLACED IN THE WRONG CLASS AT FINALS. If thats how you want to win, then what else can you do? The explorer should have been in Supermod as per the rules. Its how they are writen, not how you bend or twist them.

How was it caught having this, and placed at the wrong class at finals?
Oh yea at a local show on 10/25/2009 3 weeks after finals, that has no affiliation with USACi or rule against it period. You are assuming that it was in place at finals. Which it was not. You need to rethink your approach on this. Has the vehicle competed at a USACi show since finals? Nope. That is why I even asked about it if it is deemed that it cannot be done, then that is that and it would be taken care of before it competes at a USACi show. So now RXZILLA STFU.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:28 am

Now your trying to back out. Thats funny. You have stated to me and others on 2 diffrent fourms and also in PM's that you did this at finals. Anything else you want to tell us to legitify your win?

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:29 am

RXZILLA wrote:
Taken from the 2009 USACI rulebook....


Any construction or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL meter may be considered
reason to reclassify the vehicle to the Port Wars division or disqualification. This decision will be
at the discretion of the head judge.


Boy you sure seem to leave out words that are listed to suit your needs. Here is the rule:
1. No constructed enclosure or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL sensor may
be placed forward of the “B” pillar and will be considered reason to reclassify the vehicle to the
Port Wars or Super Port Wars divisions or disqualification. This decision will be at the discretion
of the head judge.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:30 am

dude i think you are a liar. if it wasnt there at finals, that would have been the first thing you defended yourself with. why wait to mention that?

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:31 am

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Now your trying to back out. Thats funny. You have stated to me and others on 2 diffrent fourms and also in PM's that you did this at finals. Anything else you want to tell us to legitify your win?

Not backing out of anything. and I didn't even talk to you about finals let alone pm you let alone anyone else about it. So you really need to STFU. And wait for a final decision about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:32 am

It goes back to the SPL rules when a vehicle is in question, Jenissa already told you this...you cheeted and were caught. Now your tring to do everything you can to keep a championship legit.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:34 am

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dude i think you are a liar. if it wasnt there at finals, that would have been the first thing you defended yourself with. why wait to mention that?

That is fine with me if you think that I am a liar. However I am not defending myself about anything. Simply stating the facts.

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:40 am

Alarm God wrote:
RXZILLA wrote:
Not everyone is in question, you assume they have this, YOUR VEHICLE WAS CAUGHT HAVING THIS AND WAS PLACED IN THE WRONG CLASS AT FINALS. If thats how you want to win, then what else can you do? The explorer should have been in Supermod as per the rules. Its how they are writen, not how you bend or twist them.

How was it caught having this, and placed at the wrong class at finals?
Oh yea at a local show on 10/25/2009 3 weeks after finals, that has no affiliation with USACi or rule against it period. You are assuming that it was in place at finals. Which it was not. You need to rethink your approach on this. Has the vehicle competed at a USACi show since finals? Nope. That is why I even asked about it if it is deemed that it cannot be done, then that is that and it would be taken care of before it competes at a USACi show. So now RXZILLA STFU.




I didnt know u was like this alarm god. I have to say, Im a lil disappointed. U just made urself look like a liar


LULZ wow thats all I gotta say


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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:41 am

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that would make u a supermod...... but what if u put a girl on the passanger side with the mic the rules say unmanned not unwomen..... what now Jenissa



Unmanned is unmanned, unwomaned whatever - ok look at it this way UNHUMANED better?

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:44 am

As far as this post goes I do not like where you all are going with it. STOP and quit pointing the finger and name calling whatever your doing.

2010 RULES STATE NO MODIFICATIONS FORWARD TO B PILLAR unless you want to be classed in Super Mod or the Port Classes. I will not go back to the 2009 season as it is over, done, sealed, finished.
It was the job of the verification judge to check that out if it was done at world finals or should of been brought to Don's attention that day.



Now what RD.... lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:46 am

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As far as this post goes I do not like where you all are going with it. STOP and quit pointing the finger and name calling whatever your doing.

2010 RULES STATE NO MODIFICATIONS FORWARD TO B PILLAR unless you want to be classed in Super Mod or the Port Classes. I will not go back to the 2009 season as it is over, done, sealed, finished.



Now what RD.... lol!


I think it should be changed in the rule book for better clarification lol
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PostSubject: Re: Street Beat Rule Question   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:48 am

Streetbeat rules are now in SPL rulebook and must go by the guidelines set forth in the main rulebook.

At this time Dynamat is not considered a modification.

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