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sanman I have no life


Age : 36 Joined : 23 Jun 2007 Posts : 3177
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 12:33 pm | |
| actually if im not mistaken and I might be but cliff's designs has an amp rated down to .05 as well
just to clarify that part of this massive cock fight _________________ TEAM HARD HITTERS SWAT ITS ON NOW BABABABABAY TEAM TALKALOTTOSH@t TEAM POWER MASTER TEAM REVOLUTION[/u][/b] 2008 1801-3K PRO GOAL 164(GOAL MET) 2007 0-600 PROSTOCK WORLD CHAMPION 159.6 2006 0-1000 PRO 159.7 2ND 2005 301-900SS 156.4 3RD 2004 301-900SS WORLD CHAMPION 158.8 2003 151-300 STOCK 2ND PLACE 156.2[b] |
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Stingraysevenout Expert Contributor

Age : 36 Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 2464 : Bryan, Texas
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:00 pm | |
| | zacdavis wrote: | | You've missed my point entirely. |
Zac man we will never see eye to eye on the amps thing WE never have and obviously never will.... Thats fine i dont want to loose a friendship over amp bs .....
I see your point, But this is Usaci and ive been with them since it usac years ago... And for 13 years now the amp ratings have always been 4ohm rating... ALWAYS. So this is why i get so worked up at these companies . Ive watched ppl say what you are saying for years but thats what they go bye, and that is why i back it ... Its always been this way over here and everyone always wants it changed ... But none of you will ever relieze its not gonna happen. Ralph likes that his is different and it always has been his way bro.
With that said i do see your point. But your point doesn't fit with the current rules. So i dont know what to say. Cept dont be mad at me over it . Cause im not getting mad at you.  _________________ JIMBO
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Stingraysevenout Expert Contributor

Age : 36 Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 2464 : Bryan, Texas
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:02 pm | |
| | sanman wrote: | actually if im not mistaken and I might be but cliff's designs has an amp rated down to .05 as well
just to clarify that part of this massive cock fight |
HEY THERE BUDDY DONT TALK ABOUT MY ROOSTER THAT WAY.  _________________ JIMBO
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TAMU Pro Contributor


Joined : 23 Jun 2007 Posts : 576 : TEXAS
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:08 pm | |
| when i brought my first mmats amp in 98 the 1200 models i dont think they were time travelers,mabey they were though..lol _________________

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Greg McCool Expert Contributor

Age : 29 Joined : 05 Sep 2007 Posts : 1284 : Nashville, TN
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:12 pm | |
| instead of a 4 ohm rating Usaci need to go by a .5 ohm rating or max power...
NO one runs there amps @ 4 ohm any more! _________________ Team Sweep Team Kicker Team SB Audio Team PowerMaster
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Stingraysevenout Expert Contributor

Age : 36 Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 2464 : Bryan, Texas
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:22 pm | |
| I know and i do agree with you as well Greg but we have to admit thats not the way Usaci does it... So that is my arguement, ive never been a great debater thats for sure .. But ive watched many come and go that have this idea and Ralph has never changed it... So i dont see him changing it. Guys like i said im just going bye current rule ... _________________ JIMBO
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Stingraysevenout Expert Contributor

Age : 36 Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 2464 : Bryan, Texas
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:22 pm | |
| | TAMU wrote: | | when i brought my first mmats amp in 98 the 1200 models i dont think they were time travelers,mabey they were though..lol |
???????? Ya lost me. _________________ JIMBO
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2003f150 Advanced Contributor

Age : 25 Joined : 12 Sep 2007 Posts : 331 : Biloxi,MS
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:25 pm | |
| Yeah Charles that is not me dissing on DB Drive. I let USACI do the rating and I do love DD but not going to bash any company. It is USACI that gives the ratings. I am like you I just run what class I fit in. I enjoy demoing more now that doing a burp anyways.Oh yeah thanks for the clarification Kenny. _________________ Bret Arceneaux Team S.P.E.A.D 2003 Crew Cab F150 4 9515F's 2 DD M3's Mod 1001-2000 157.3 @ 47HZ SB4 156.0(young jeezy 44hz) |
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Greg McCool Expert Contributor

Age : 29 Joined : 05 Sep 2007 Posts : 1284 : Nashville, TN
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:28 pm | |
| | Stingraysevenout wrote: | | I know and i do agree with you as well Greg but we have to admit thats not the way Usaci does it... So that is my arguement, ive never been a great debater thats for sure .. But ive watched many come and go that have this idea and Ralph has never changed it... So i dont see him changing it. Guys like i said im just going bye current rule ... |
ya but when Usaci started there was alot of ppl running there amps @ 4 ohms.... thangs change not NO one runs there amps @ 4 ohms!
Ralph didnt want to change the from Flashdane eather... no it time to move witht the times!  _________________ Team Sweep Team Kicker Team SB Audio Team PowerMaster
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Stingraysevenout Expert Contributor

Age : 36 Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 2464 : Bryan, Texas
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:31 pm | |
| Im thinking so as well . Bro FO SHO _________________ JIMBO
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Stingraysevenout Expert Contributor

Age : 36 Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 2464 : Bryan, Texas
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:34 pm | |
| LOL,,,,,, I liked Flashdance days and miss them it blew my mind when we didn't use it anymore. But the power change thing would not blow my mind as much. Flashdance seemed easier to build around. Then the burb deal i was lost at first. _________________ JIMBO
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zacdavis Advanced Contributor


Age : 31 Joined : 28 Jun 2007 Posts : 399
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:39 pm | |
| I hear ya Jimbo, but in oder to keep USACi #1 we need to evolve and the current 4ohm rating system has got to go.
"What's the reason for rules?"
Rules are put in place throughout many different sports and competitions for one main purpose....for leveling the playing field, to keep things fair.
We can all agree on that.
As it stands, our particular 4ohm rule does not level the playing field. Every year, year after year, we're in the exact same position debating what this or that amp actually does at 4ohms when in all actuality it shouldnt make a difference because none of these amps were ever intended to run at 4ohms.
We need to classify amplifiers by their highest published rms rating, regardless of impedance.
This is the only way to level the playing field.
Now, on a side note, if you think about it I was saying that yes, MMats has an advantage over other amps, but its not their fault, it is our rating system that places their amps into these lower classes.
If we were to start classifying amplifiers correctly all of this would be done and over with once and for all.
There are so many advantages to doing this.
#1 It would attract new manufacturer support to USACi from companies that build amps that arent capable of running extremely low impedances.
#2 It would attract new competitors who run 2ohm rated amps.
#3 It would stop the bickering between all of us.
#4 It would attract crossover competitors who don't have lower rated amplifiers.
.....the list goes on, there isnt ONE single good reason I've heard to keep the current 4ohm rating system. In fact, the only reason I've ever heard is because its always been this way.
So, what reason other than that can anybody give that constitutes keeping these 4ohm rating classifications for amplifiers? _________________ Pro Stock Champ/Record Holder Upper midwest region Competitor Committee call Zac at 608-365-3500 or Mike at 262-707-7570 www.myspace.com/daviszac www.myspace.com/salvame www.tinkertoycustoms.com under construction |
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Stingraysevenout Expert Contributor

Age : 36 Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 2464 : Bryan, Texas
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Fri May 23, 2008 1:48 pm | |
| OH OHHHHHHHHHHHHH I GOT ONE.
NO, I DONT BUT NAVI'S MOM DOES. _________________ JIMBO
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charlesestes Pro Contributor


Age : 35 Joined : 25 Jun 2007 Posts : 525
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Mon May 26, 2008 1:55 am | |
| sorry brett. and yes i did run ddm1s when i went for the record at mardi gras like 3 yrs ago, never denied it! i think dd is a great companies and jesse and steve are great guys, ive known them both many, many years. i jumped your ass for mouthing off about db drive "Female dog"! im not sure who you are or who you think you are but i dont hide anything about me or my builds and if you'd like to question the integrity of anything i do just tell me what show and ill be there spankbank or whatever your name is. ive been to biloxi before, hell i lived there when i was a kid. i'll come to a show and stomp your little festiva to the ground, just pick a class! _________________ Broken Silence C.C. Team DB DRIVE Team RE Team DB Link Team Maxxsonics Team ohio Generator It's not what you buy, it's what you build! 11x World Record Holder, and builder of a few others 2007 USACI mod 2001-4000 world champ 2007 IASCA adv. nw world champ 2001 DB DRAG s3-4 world champ |
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Greg McCool Expert Contributor

Age : 29 Joined : 05 Sep 2007 Posts : 1284 : Nashville, TN
| Subject: Re: Poll DD Mon May 26, 2008 7:50 am | |
| | zacdavis wrote: | I hear ya Jimbo, but in oder to keep USACi #1 we need to evolve and the current 4ohm rating system has got to go.
"What's the reason for rules?"
Rules are put in place throughout many different sports and competitions for one main purpose....for leveling the playing field, to keep things fair.
We can all agree on that.
As it stands, our particular 4ohm rule does not level the playing field. Every year, year after year, we're in the exact same position debating what this or that amp actually does at 4ohms when in all actuality it shouldnt make a difference because none of these amps were ever intended to run at 4ohms.
We need to classify amplifiers by their highest published rms rating, regardless of impedance.
This is the only way to level the playing field.
Now, on a side note, if you think about it I was saying that yes, MMats has an advantage over other amps, but its not their fault, it is our rating system that places their amps into these lower classes.
If we were to start classifying amplifiers correctly all of this would be done and over with once and for all.
There are so many advantages to doing this.
#1 It would attract new manufacturer support to USACi from companies that build amps that arent capable of running extremely low impedances.
#2 It would attract new competitors who run 2ohm rated amps.
#3 It would stop the bickering between all of us.
#4 It would attract crossover competitors who don't have lower rated amplifiers.
.....the list goes on, there isnt ONE single good reason I've heard to keep the current 4ohm rating system. In fact, the only reason I've ever heard is because its always been this way.
So, what reason other than that can anybody give that constitutes keeping these 4ohm rating classifications for amplifiers? |
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very well put! _________________ Team Sweep Team Kicker Team SB Audio Team PowerMaster
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