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Gabe Sanchez Advanced Contributor


Joined : 26 Jun 2007 Posts : 359
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 5:38 pm | |
| | USACI wrote: | | 2006 was 30%. Everyone was puching the line and in 07 we went to 20% to tighten things up and keep the field level. |
If this is true, then that means all the amps that were tested under the 30% limit must be rerated as well. That is only fair at this point.
I will take this up with the member committe as well. _________________ Gabe Sanchez
Pioneer Electronics National Trainer
Team GForce Team dB Driven |
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TeamSpead-Kenny Expert Contributor

Age : 24 Joined : 01 Jul 2007 Posts : 1316 : Chalmette Louisiana
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 5:40 pm | |
| | Gabe Sanchez wrote: | | USACI wrote: | | 2006 was 30%. Everyone was puching the line and in 07 we went to 20% to tighten things up and keep the field level. |
If this is true, then that means all the amps that were tested under the 30% limit must be rerated as well. That is only fair at this point.
I will take this up with the member committe as well. |
Your correct on that cant rerate some amps different from others in the past! _________________ Kenneth Bischoff Jr Team S.P.E.A.D Team KICKER Team KINETIK |
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kickercrx Expert Contributor

Age : 99 Joined : 24 Jun 2007 Posts : 1169 : Crxville
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 5:43 pm | |
| that is true, but who knows if usaci even still has the results to see what the actual results were, or if they just know that they passed, of course back then using differant benches and equipment to get the test results, well that is a big can of worms right there _________________ Chad Stoulil S.W.A.T. Team/Street Beatz 2x World Champion 3x World Record Holder 2x Runner up 2008 GOAL - Become top 10 post whore
69x 1st Place Champion
TEAM PIE - Pound it hard or go home |
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Talonesi Pro Contributor


Age : 27 Joined : 26 Jun 2007 Posts : 551 : Wichita, Ks
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 5:47 pm | |
| so are you allowed 4 strikes or is it 3? _________________ Troy Royer 2007 Street beat 1 4th place
Team DB Driven Team Squiggles
| Mike Jaffe wrote: | | Nope! They're coming to see me and Darville get it on in the "Man Love" booth. |
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bigbass140 Novice Contributor


Age : 30 Joined : 07 Oct 2007 Posts : 80
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 5:54 pm | |
| fail at 13.8 i had to drop my m3 down too 13.2 to keep it from going into protect.
i will have both of my m3's up forsale shortly. _________________ 89 rex 2 dd m3's strapped 1/2 ohm 4 ma audio xl 12's ohio gen large case 16v 250 amp 4 kinetik 16v db link rca's 2 runs of KnuKonceptz 1/0 monster cable 1/0 anl fuse holders mod 1001-2k 151.2 on the old ma setup |
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TeamSpead-Kenny Expert Contributor

Age : 24 Joined : 01 Jul 2007 Posts : 1316 : Chalmette Louisiana
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 5:58 pm | |
| | bigbass140 wrote: | | fail at 13.8 i had to drop my m3 down too 13.2 to keep it from going into protect. . |
?????????????????????????????? _________________ Kenneth Bischoff Jr Team S.P.E.A.D Team KICKER Team KINETIK |
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Tim Schaffer Advanced Contributor


Joined : 25 Jun 2007 Posts : 374
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:02 pm | |
| | TeamSpead-Kenny wrote: | | Gabe Sanchez wrote: | | USACI wrote: | | 2006 was 30%. Everyone was puching the line and in 07 we went to 20% to tighten things up and keep the field level. |
If this is true, then that means all the amps that were tested under the 30% limit must be rerated as well. That is only fair at this point.
I will take this up with the member committe as well. |
Your correct on that cant rerate some amps different from others in the past! |
this is very true it should have stayed 30% no matter what because every amp that is tested after is at a disavantage. and this amp would have passed on the old limit. and if you read the 1 ohm it passes for 0-600 less than stated by dd 2400@1 and if you read the bottom sweep test for power it passes also with 600 @ 4ohm and that test was with a (actual vehicle power supply) 13.8v so its more real for us because we all play diff hz _________________ Tim Schaffer TEAM SWEEP TEAM KICKER TEAM SB AUDIO 07 0-600 3rd W.F./REGION 5 Points Champ/0-600 stock W.R. 06 0-300 stock 2nd world finals 05 0-300 stock 2nd world finals
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TECH114 I have no life


Age : 34 Joined : 23 Jun 2007 Posts : 4244 : Richmond Hill, N.Y.
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:03 pm | |
| the great amp debat. here we go again. spend your hard earned money for an amp and then what. This is the reason people are quitting this sport. _________________ Kumar Infiniti Competition Broken Silence C.C. 2008 Mod 1001-2000 2007 World Finals Mod 0-1000 162 2006 World Finals Mod 0-300 158.2
http://www.myspace.com/infinitisound http://www.nesoundoff.com
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USACI Head Bald Guy in Charge

Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 555 : World Wide
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:35 pm | |
| This post was FYI and to get POSITIVE INPUT, not the negative crap. Why are people talking about quittin? People are quitting because we follow the rules? People are quitting because, bacause, because. Nascar, AMA, IHRA, NHRA, and every other sanction in the WORLD has to deal with the same issues. This is nothing new to any sport. We do our best and try to stick with it.
As for the results, everything is fine until someone gets results they do not like. Last year it was our test bench that was the problem according to most of the posts. This year it is something else (20% rule). Every time we fix one thing there are three others that pop up. If the amp passed there would be another group angry because it 30% is TOO EASY! This never ends. Show me any set of rules for ANY ORG and I iwl show you 20 problems and 30 ways to get around them. You cannot get around the human factor.
These rules have been posted and are not a suprise. As for the 20% vs 30%, that issue CAN BE reveiwed by the competitor commitee if they choose to. If you have an issue, use the avenue that was put out there for you to use. We have not made a final determination as of this time and plan to contact DD to get their input and review the USACI and CEA rules prior to a final decision.
However, using this protest result and this topis as an excuse to Slam USACI, create dissention, or promote your "other favorite org" will be reason for immediate removal from the forums and USACI.
We welcome opinions, not agenda's. _________________ Ralph Randall President, USAC International
“It worked before you broke it!”
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USACI Head Bald Guy in Charge

Joined : 22 Jun 2007 Posts : 555 : World Wide
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:40 pm | |
| | bruce-bruce wrote: | | Who did the testing? |
The testing facility is noted in the report. _________________ Ralph Randall President, USAC International
“It worked before you broke it!” |
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Tim Schaffer Advanced Contributor


Joined : 25 Jun 2007 Posts : 374
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:43 pm | |
| These rules have been posted and are not a suprise. As for the 20% vs 30%, that issue CAN BE reveiwed by the competitor commitee if they choose to. If you have an issue, use the avenue that was put out there for you to use.
cool that is a good option thanks Ralph _________________ Tim Schaffer TEAM SWEEP TEAM KICKER TEAM SB AUDIO 07 0-600 3rd W.F./REGION 5 Points Champ/0-600 stock W.R. 06 0-300 stock 2nd world finals 05 0-300 stock 2nd world finals |
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PhatSam Pro Contributor


Age : 27 Joined : 24 Jun 2007 Posts : 613 : Topeka,Ks
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:52 pm | |
| 20% seems fair to me. Levels the feild that much more. I think the comitee is the way to go on the 20% vs 30%, but I say leave it at 20%. Only option I can think is that previous amps can be re protested _________________ Sam Schattilly Team Treo Team Broken Silence Team DB Driven |
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sanman I have no life


Age : 36 Joined : 23 Jun 2007 Posts : 3168
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:54 pm | |
| this was suppose to be the most bullet proof 0-600 amp out there and it failed man lol let me go see how many are for sale now _________________ TEAM HARD HITTERS SWAT ITS ON NOW BABABABABAY TEAM TALKALOTTOSH@t TEAM POWER MASTER TEAM REVOLUTION[/u][/b] 2008 1801-3K PRO GOAL 164(GOAL MET) 2007 0-600 PROSTOCK WORLD CHAMPION 159.6 2006 0-1000 PRO 159.7 2ND 2005 301-900SS 156.4 3RD 2004 301-900SS WORLD CHAMPION 158.8 2003 151-300 STOCK 2ND PLACE 156.2[b] |
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ibbangin Expert Contributor

Age : 21 Joined : 13 Jul 2007 Posts : 1278 : tyler,texas
| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:57 pm | |
| people spend alot of money and then usaci changes and those changes cost people alot of money sometimes it seems that this is not taken into consideration..... im debating on going to finals this year because of what happened last year with the streat beat thing.....don't know if i will be willing to risk something happening like that again..... i still like to compete it's just that that was a real sudden change of rules for no reason.... _________________ sb1 1 atomic apx 10 2 crossfire 2400's 152.9

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| Subject: Re: DDM3 Protest Results Thu May 15, 2008 6:57 pm | |
| Ralph has contacted me, the competitors committee will be discussing this, you input is desired. Contact your regional reps. Ralph does wanr are input on what we would like to see. Old 30% new 20% what do yall want, now is the time to be heard. Thanks |
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